Wednesday, August 24th, 2005

In this Episode 2 of the Wawancara Hari Kebangsaan 2005 series, Shin consults bloggers Fathi Aris Omar, Ong Boon Keong, Rajan Rishyakaran, Zulhabri Supian, Tauke Fooji, Emmanuel Joseph, Sharizal Sharaani, Politics 101, Nurul Izzah Anwar and David Teoh of David the Katana on the issue of National Language and National Unity.

Shin : Many including former teachers in Malay College Kuala Kangar (MCKK) hold the opinion that, the level of national unity and academic results were much better when the medium of instruction was English. Once it was switched to Bahasa, it’s downhill all the way. Does this mean the national language cannot unite the citizens efficiently ?

Fathi : I don’t think the issue is language, bahasa Malaysia or English. I
prefer to say the pivotal issue here is democratic freedom. Read George Orwell’s brief comment on this issue, ‘Politics and the English Language‘ (1946).

For the New Order’s Indonesian control of language and thoughts, we may refer to this latest book, Social Science and Power in Indonesia (2005).

If you can’t express many things, if you cannot explore your creative freedom freely (literature, for example), if you have some ideas but no effective medium of public expression and exchange (no free press or academic freedom), if our society kills debate and critical thinking, if intellectuals fails (or refused) to challenge the powers-that-be (that is, no serious debates on matters of public importance), what is happening to our language?

I tend not to agree with the former teachers in MCKK. I guess they perceive these issues wrongly or narrowly. I notice bahasa Malaysia can be a medium of excellence too.

But when our freedom and democracy is slowly eroded, a decade after another (see this important dates: post-May 13, 1969, the 22-year rule under Dr Mahathir Mohamad and post-1998 political crises), what has happened to our language use and our thoughts?

Even English-speaking Malays and Malaysians, urbanites and professionals, are ’stupid’ (or: shallow, conservative, less critical and ignorant)!

Do you read ‘letters section’ of Malaysiakini.com – and do you think these English-speaking letter writers are ‘good’? Have you noticed how people express and argue in The Star, The New Straits Times and even Kakiseni.com?

Even those who study overseas (Malays or non-Malays) are more or less inflicted with this Malaysian disease of mediocrity! Language use is not about words and vocabulary. It is about ideas and how you relate, analyse, what’s is happening around you (societal realities).

Language and excellence are not spontatenous. People, here, assume (repeat: assume) English is more superior to bahasa Malaysia because the former language is more developed intellectually and internationally recognised.

But when you try to transmit the intellectuality of English to a less democratic environment (when you are subject to unfair, conservative, undemocractic constraints) – it may have different impact. It is the context of intellectuality (or intellectual development) in a certain
political climate that provides the excellence of language use (and, thoughts).

But language can be a good (and very effective, too!) tool for thought-control, propaganda and misinformation. See Murray Edelman’s The Politics of Misinformation (2001, 2004) and Pierre Bourdieu’s Language and Symbolic Power (1991, 2001).

If you ask some Malay intellectuals, who can use equally well bahasa Malaysia and English, e.g. Rustam A Sani, Hishamuddin Rais or Khalid Jaafar — they will agree with me. That is, nothing is special in English-speaking Malays’ (or, non-Malays’) discourse and understanding.

What I try to conclude is simple indeed — it is democratic freedom, not the language use, which hinders excellence.

You said: “Once it was switched to Bahasa, it’s downhill all the way.” But can you also notice the downhill of our democratic space?

Shin : Yes, definately…

Fathi : So, I believe there is strong correlation between political authoritarism (especially the 22-year rule of Dr Mahathir’s) plus religious fundamentalism and thought-control and language use.

I try to explain, though still simple and inadequate, in some of my pieces in my Malaysiakini.com column, e.g. ‘Akar Umbi Pembodohan Umno’ (23 August 2003), ‘Politik dan Kejahatan Berbahasa’ (8 August 2005) and the most recent one ‘Kebodohan Umum di Indonesia’ (22 August 2005).

If you read my book Patah Balek: Catatan Terpenting Reformasi (Feb 2005), link , you will notice that the issues are dealt with quite extensively.

I still believe, none the less, that my analyses are still superficial. I try to remind people that we have to deal with these issues (i.e. language, public discourse and thought control) because they are equally important in our democratic struggle; not cases of human rights violations only (for instance).

BK : Historically it was true -but need not be so. In the past only very few get educated -so the academic excellence and unity was limited. Now with more people being educated the task for national unity is larger and heavier. Unfortunately the government chosed to level down educational standards in the haste to widen education access - thus the lowering of standards. They could have taken care to maintain standards. So it is not necessarily linked with national language.

Rajan : Cuba has no national language - it is one of the remaining few countries that successfully united many ethnic groups within one national identity. Same goes for Puerto Rico . Another good example is America itself. While white-coloured relations are only begining to pick up, integration between various races occured while their counterparts in Europe were killing each other. Interestingly, German-Americans form a plurarity of whites, yet German isn’t America’s national language.

We should let the people decide on their own. If they want to use Malay as their language? So be it. English? Go ahead. If half of Malaysia adopts Esperanto, be my guess. The government should accomodate to our language and not the other way around.

Habri : Saya tidak dapat menjawab soalan ini dengan baik kerana tidak berpeluang untuk merasai sistem pendidikan di dalam Bahasa English. Namun saya akan cuba memberi pandangan saya tentang isu perpaduan kaum. Bagi saya faktor uatama yang menyebabkan perpaduan kaum di Malaysia gagal dicapai adalah bermula di pihak kerajaan dengan polisi-polisi yang bersikap diskriminasi (respon kepada tragedi 13 Mei, timbul soal lain pula adakah kaum Cina begitu tamak ketika itu dan tidak berpijak pada realiti sosial ?) kepada kaum bukan Bumupitera di dalam pelbagai bidang seperti ekonomi, pendidikan termasuk juga
hiburan yang sekaligus menyebabkan unit penting di dalam masyarakat iaitu keluarga (bukan bumi, lazimnya akan turut mempengaruhi ahli keluarga yang lain seperti anak dan isteri) bersikap anti atau prejudis kepada kaum Bumi (terutama Melayu).

Sikap prejudis ini telah menjadi kelaziman di dalam keluarga bukan bumi dan juga bumi dan cara terbaik untuk mengatasi sekaligus meningkatkan tahap perpaduan di negara ini adalah bermula melalui usaha individu itu sendiri. Mereka wajib keluar dari kepompong prejudis yang merosakkan ini dan sebaliknya berusaha untuk ‘engage’. Bahasa dalam soal ini bagi saya bukanlah punca utama dan jika benar maka betullah sikap prejudis telah bersarang. Mereka yang pandai berbahasa English memperkecil-kecilkan dan menjauhkan diri mereka dengan mereka yang berbahasa kebangsaan dan juga sebaliknya.

Namun ingin saya beri penekanan bahawa semua rakyat Malaysia harus mahir berbahasa kebangsaan kerana ia adalah bahasa rasmi negara ini. Walaupun BM bukan milik mutlak kaum Melayu sahaja di negara ini tetapi kaum bukan bumi harus sedar bahawa dengan tidak mahir berbahasa kebangsaan akan menyebabkan kaum majoriti di Malaysia iaitu Melayu (BM berasal dari bahasa kaum ini) berasa kecil hati. Jadi menjadi tanggungjawab kita semua rakyat Malaysia untuk memahirkan diri dengan bahasa kebangsaan dan di dalam masa yang sama terus mempertingkatkan penguasaan Bahasa English, bahasa ibunda dan bahasa-bahasa lain

Bagi soalan keputusan akademik, saya tidak mempunyai data-data komparatif untuk membuat penilaian.

Fooji : Let us be realistic and not idealistic. Idealistically, if the Japanese and Chinese can rise so strongly with their own language, why can’t we Malaysians? However, we have to realise that Bahasa Melayu is not the mother tongue of all the ethnic groups. (The Chinese, especially, are too protective of their language, to adopt a new mother tongue). I think BM has failed to an intellectual language, a business language that can bring us forward, because besides being a fairly young unestablished language, it is also not popular among those who have a different mother tongue. However, I think BM, just like any other language would have, has succeeded to be the language of daily conversations between races in the marketplace, in the office. (But sadly not in the business world, or even the medical world). Therefore, the BM, because every Malaysian has to learn it, is effective in becoming the common language for all, and thus, as a form of machinery to drive towards unity. But of course, deep down in my heart, English, would have played a more effective role.

Emmanuel : In my humble opinion, BM should be maintained, but the focus should be towards English.Reason being, though BM seemed like a good idea at that time, where nationalism was high and singular countries were highly individualistic, international tendencies now run deeper towards globalization, regardless what opinions we may have of it, or lack thereof, or however we resent it, or how little we know of it.As such, English should be the way to go.Not just for advancement, but for survival.Of course BM must survive, as is a heritage language.In fact all these mother tongues should have institutes set up for its preservement.Perhaps in one of the universities.

Sharizal : I disagree. The level of education and national unity are too loosely correlated to each other to comment on. But to directly answer your question national unity does not solely depend on the national language. Although it is one of the major components but to solely use it as a scapegoat is bad form.

Poli : It wasn’t really due to a shift in medium of instruction. It’s just that along the same path came the Malay Agenda and it’s this agenda that divided the communities, crippled the education system and retarded critical thinking among younger Malaysians. That agenda created many useful robots programmed to say “Yes sir” without first engaging their brains !

Nurul Izzah : It goes back to implementation, as a lot of things in Malaysia are linked to well meaning agendas, unfortunately not corresponding to proper implementation.

I do not think you can pinpoint the blame of the lacking unity to the policy of maintaining Bahasa Malaysia as a medium of teaching in local universities.

Of course we will need to maintain the importance of Bahasa Malaysia as our national language, but at the same time, there needs to be an equal amount of effort in improving the level of English education taught in our schools.

I studied in the English medium as an undergraduate, and I still felt there was an obvious lack of unity between us students, butto me personally,that was more due to the existing Acts that further remind each and one of us of the importance of keeping mum, careful and distant, rather than the medium of education itself.

David : I am not from the generation when the switch occurred. It was an attempt to foster nation building yet, the reality was that as a trading nation, we were at an advantage because we could converse well in English. It was a noble move to encourage a national identity which in the end was used as a political tool for race-based politics. I think the original intention to build a national identity became distorted by politics to encourage further divisiveness within the different language groups. It is a pity. We are now a nation which can’t speak Malay or English well.

This is the first episode of the Wawancara Hari Kebangsaan 2005 series. Amongst the bloggers and activists who blog, replies from Fathi Aris Omar of Patah Balek, Ong Boon Keong of Malaysia Voters Union, Rajan Rishyakaran of the self-titled blog Rajan Rishyakaran, Zulhabri Supian of Komentar Rakyat Biasa, Tauke Fooji of Warung Ikan Bakar, Emmanuel Joseph of My Daily Dread, Sharizal Sharaani of Perpetual Permutating Perceptions, Poli of Politics Malaysia 101, Nurul Izzah Anwar and David Teoh of David the Katana have been received. Therefore, the everyone’s reply will be compiled alongside each question, and be published here from today.


Tunku Abdul Rahman mengisytiharkan kemerdekaan Persekutuan Tanah Melayu di Stadium Merdeka pada 31 Ogos 1957.

Shin : The British have left the country for 48 years, but many of their policies including the notorious Internal Security Act (ISA), divide and rule, restrictions on mother tongue education are still largely intact. In the aspects of press freedom and local election, it’s much worse than it was 48 years ago. In your opinion, are we truly independent ?

Fathi : I guess the issue is becoming cliché, almost every year we ask and argue the same question – for instance, “are we independent”? [laughing] We have to recognise a simple fact that a democracy (or, politics in any country) is a complex, dynamic process. So if you have already achieved a comparatively freer political setting, it does not necessarily last long.

If you study the history of post-colonial Burma and the Philippines, you can see such dynamics. If you look at Indonesia’s post-Soeharto democracy, it will appear to you that a democracy is relative.

I am not an apologetic to Malaysian current state of political affairs now, but we can say that freedom has to be fought for over and over. It is not static, ‘given’ once and for all! Democracy, even when it is practised democratically, can have paradoxes, problems and contradictions. See Frank Cunningham’s The Theories of Democracy: A Critical Introduction (2003).

BK : Actually the ISA, divide and rule, restrictions on mother tongue education are worse now than before -after eg ISA had been amended 20 time over ! Just like press freedom and local government election. The people are not independent -but the state -in terms of political force running the country, is formally independent. The people need to win independence in our own name.

Rajan : No. But don’t blame the British. The Americans got rid of the British to establish the longest-lasting constitution with a democratic republican government that improves by year. We?

Habri : Berhubung persoalan sama ada kita sudah merdeka sepenuhnya atau tidak, jawapan saya sudah pastilah belum walaupun kita sudah merasai sebahagian nikmat kemerdekaan. Namun bagi saya definasi merdeka ini sangat berbeza pada setiap rakyat negara kita, bergantung kepada mana pemahaman dan lingkungan persekitaran mereka.

Namun saya juga ingin menegaskan bahawa kita wajib menghargai nikmat kemerdekaan ini walaupun ianya masih belum cukup sempurna. Bayangkan jika nikmat yang tidak sempurna langsung tidak ada? Tetapi itu bukan bermakna perjuangan untuk menuntut kemerdekaan yang tulen diketepikan dan saya ingin tegaskan di sini bahawa usaha mencapai ‘kemerdekaan kedua’ seperti matlamat meluaskan proses demokrasi ini amat penting untuk difahami dan diperjuangkan oleh rakyat Malaysia. Itu juga tidak bermakna jika sudah dicapai ia akan berakhir di situ kerana proses demokrasi itu tidak statik sifatnya.

Fooji : Can we say that Tanah Melayu, without the intervention via the colonisation, would have ended up much worse in terms of social rights and distribution of wealth? I think we are truly independent from British rule, but not yet independent from regressive views and blind loyalty, and disrespect towards human rights.

Emmanuel : No, we are not.The only way we can truly be independent are if minds are liberated and ALL barriers posed by colonial rule is broken.This includes poverty, uneducation, malnourishment, racial/religious extremism, and any other form of people-herding.

Sharizal : This is a double edged question. In one hand we have achieved so much during the first 48 years many of us do question why can’t we achieve more especially with regards to the question that you have just asked.

On the other hand, as a country of 48 years we are still young in our formative years and it is during such times is where we face ups and downs of joys and tribulations like any growing country.

But we must not loose direction or faith to what we believe that is right for our country and equally important to fight for it within the limits that is present in this country.

Sometimes when we fight for something that we believe what is right we forget that we do trample on the other rights of many other people who have a different preference to what is important. In order to be fair to this bigger, silent majority, one must be fair…

Poli : Over the years I have heard a few non-Malays saying we may be better off if we were still a British colony. I can never subscribe to that line of thought. I think many have mistaken merdeka for freedom. Being independent does not equate to being more free. Malaysia isn’t the only victim of continued divide-and-rule policies. Ceylon (now Sri Lanka) and the Middle East are very good examples of how the fallout from such policies are still impacting on society.

I cannot really fault the government for keeping intact laws like the ISA, and putting together more oppressive ones like the Official Secrets Act and Universities and University Colleges Act 1971 because the BN takes each new mandate it gets at every election as a thumbs-up by the public for a job well done. In many ways that’s absolutely true because many of those who grumble are also those who either didn’t bother to vote or they voted for the BN. I believe it’s well documented that one of the govt’s fiercest critics in the “intellectual” world admitted he didn’t bothered to cast a vote until 1999!

Nurul Izzah : There are of course many facets to the meaning of Malaysian
independence. I would not disagree with the fact that we have been physically freed from our former British counterparts. But yes, with the continuing implementation of their outdated and archaic policies and laws, we are truly at a loss.

The slow erosion of the Election Commission, which was more independent in the late 60s compared to this moment in time helped to deny our rights for a more credible, fair and free election. Of course an ombudsman always acts to ensure there is greater representation from the locals, hence empowering each citizen even more. We have a long way from being truly independent. It has a lot to do with a battle in our minds, as much as the realization of a true democratic nation. I think Azly Rahman’s article, entitled “Merdeka! But are we totally free“, sums it pretty well.

David : When we look at the original intention of laws like the ISA, we see it was established in good faith and not an instrument to ‘curb’ independence. Every once in a while, we must look back and see if some of the archaic laws we made are still relevant today. Independence should not be equated with freedom. Independence means the people of this country taking the lead in determining the course of the nation’s future. However it seems to be an Asian thing where preservation of the peace takes precedence over the freedom of expression. We need time to grow out of it. We are very much a 3rd world country, regardless of what the politicians may say. A maturity that goes along with freedom of expression is not present in our society as yet.